Episode 243

Compliance, the Fair Work Agency, and the Future of the Profession with Julie Gunnell

Most businesses think payroll is working. People get paid, deadlines are met, and no one raises a flag. But compliant payroll is not the same as strategic payroll, and in a regulatory landscape that is shifting faster than most employers realise, the gap between the two has never been more costly.

In this episode of @thepayrollpodcast, Nick Day, CEO of JGA Recruitment, sits down with Julie Gunnell, Associate Director of Growth Payroll at Azets, one of the UK's leading accountancy and business advisory firms, to make the case that payroll is no longer a back-office function. It is a compliance risk, a strategic asset, and a direct reflection of how much an organisation respects its people.

This is not just a conversation about processing pay. It is a conversation about what is coming, what most employers are not ready for, and why the payroll profession is quietly becoming one of the most important functions in any business. Julie and Nick explore the three game-changers that have transformed the profession, auto-enrolment, furlough, and the imminent arrival of the Fair Work Agency, and why the FWA represents the most fundamental shift in how businesses manage HR and payroll data that the UK has ever seen.

They also cover why six-year holiday record retention from April is a wake-up call for every employer, how payroll data is one of the most underused strategic assets sitting inside any organisation, why salary sacrifice and benefits review should be on every employer's agenda right now, the case for making internal payroll audits a non-negotiable part of the annual calendar, and why the next generation of payroll professionals, many of them post-graduates, are choosing payroll as a deliberate, informed career decision.

It is not just about getting the numbers right.

It is about the trust, compliance, and business intelligence sitting behind every single payslip.

And if you are not thinking about payroll that way yet, this episode will change that.

Whether you are a payroll professional navigating the wave of regulatory change heading your way, an HR or finance leader trying to understand the real risk sitting inside your payroll function, or a business owner who has never questioned whether your payroll is truly working for you, this episode will give you a new way of seeing one of the most business-critical functions in your organisation.

This episode is sponsored by Deel

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction and Meet Julie Gunnell, Associate Director of Growth Payroll at Azets

(01:49) What Payroll Really Means and Why Julie Calls It the Best Profession in the World

(03:29) How Julie Fell Into Payroll and the Mentors Who Built Her Foundation

(06:30) Bureau vs. In-House and Why Processing for Multiple Clients Changes Everything

(08:50) The Three Game-Changers: Auto-Enrolment, Furlough, and the Fair Work Agency

(14:55) AI in Payroll: Powerful Tool, Not a Replacement

(19:16) The Next Generation and Why Post-Grads Are Choosing Payroll as a Career

(23:10) Julie's Proudest Moment: Getting Payroll a National Shout-Out on BBC Radio 2

(27:13) Growth Meets Compliance and How Julie Balances Both at Azets

(31:01) Payroll as a Strategic Asset and the Data Your Business Isn't Using

(34:39) Why Every Employer Needs Regular Internal Payroll Audits

(37:35) The Future of Payroll: Recognition, Qualifications, and What's Coming Next

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Nick Day

Nick Day is a globally recognised thought leader in the payroll and HR industry, with over 20 years of experience as the founder and CEO of JGA Recruitment.

As an ILM 7 qualified Executive Coach and Mentor, Nick has dedicated his career to guiding CHROs, entrepreneurs, and payroll industry leaders worldwide.
Nick received the PAYO Global Vision Award in 2024 and was also voted one of Thinkers360’s "Top Voices EMEA" the same year.

In 2023, Thinkers360 ranked Nick as the #1 Global "Thought Leader in Payroll” and #9 Global "Thought Leader in HR.” That same year, he received the Recruitment Leaders Leader Award (RDLC) and the Personality of the Year title at the Reward Strategy Leadership Awards.

Nick's deep knowledge of the payroll industry and his coaching expertise make him a sought-after speaker and mentor for payroll and HR leaders. His presentations are known for their interactive elements, real-world applications, and actionable takeaways, ensuring attendees leave with a clear path to enhance their leadership capabilities.

Nick Day has a rich history of delivering impactful presentations, keynote speeches and workshops at various industry conferences and events. His engaging speaking style and practical insights have earned him recognition as a leading voice in payroll leadership.