Episode 199

The Ultimate Guide to Becoming a Partner in Payroll with Karen Thomson

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How do you go from an entry-level payroll role to becoming a Partner at one of the UK’s leading accountancy firms?


In this episode, payroll leader Karen Thomson shares her 30-year journey and the career moves, leadership skills, and mindset shifts that helped her break barriers in the industry.


Karen opens up about her path from administrator to partner, the importance of building influence beyond payroll, and why embracing technology is key for the future. She also speaks candidly about navigating personal challenges like menopause while leading, managing mergers and acquisitions, and keeping people at the heart of every decision.


If you’re ready to stand out, move up, and make an impact in payroll, this conversation is packed with insights you can put into action right away.



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(00:00) Why Payroll Professionals Keep the World Ticking 

(01:38) Introducing Karen Thomson and Her Career Highlights 

(03:20) What Payroll Means to Karen 

(05:10) From Pensions to Payroll: Karen’s Early Career Steps 

(07:04) Discovering a Passion for Payroll and Early Promotions 

(10:07) Moving to Larger Payrolls and Implementing New Systems 

(13:43) Transition to Policy Work at the IPPM (Now CIPP) 

(17:05) Achieving Chartered Status for the Institute 

(18:29) Joining Armstrong Watson as Director of Payroll 

(20:48) The Journey to Becoming Payroll Partner 

(26:45) Team Reactions and Raising Payroll’s Profile 

(30:27) Navigating Menopause While Leading in Payroll 

(39:24) Modern Payroll Leadership and Employee Experience 

(42:49) Mentoring Apprentices and Client Communication Skills 

(45:18) A Day in the Life of a Payroll Partner 

(47:55) Lessons Learned from Early Career Mistakes 

(51:20) Managing Payroll Through Mergers & Acquisitions 

(57:29) Patience, Communication, and Leadership Themes 

(58:27) Advice for Payroll Professionals Starting Out 

(59:01) Karen’s Leadership Philosophy and Payroll Predictions 

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Nick Day

Nick Day is a globally recognised thought leader in the payroll and HR industry, with over 20 years of experience as the founder and CEO of JGA Recruitment.

As an ILM 7 qualified Executive Coach and Mentor, Nick has dedicated his career to guiding CHROs, entrepreneurs, and payroll industry leaders worldwide.
Nick received the PAYO Global Vision Award in 2024 and was also voted one of Thinkers360’s "Top Voices EMEA" the same year.

In 2023, Thinkers360 ranked Nick as the #1 Global "Thought Leader in Payroll” and #9 Global "Thought Leader in HR.” That same year, he received the Recruitment Leaders Leader Award (RDLC) and the Personality of the Year title at the Reward Strategy Leadership Awards.

Nick's deep knowledge of the payroll industry and his coaching expertise make him a sought-after speaker and mentor for payroll and HR leaders. His presentations are known for their interactive elements, real-world applications, and actionable takeaways, ensuring attendees leave with a clear path to enhance their leadership capabilities.

Nick Day has a rich history of delivering impactful presentations, keynote speeches and workshops at various industry conferences and events. His engaging speaking style and practical insights have earned him recognition as a leading voice in payroll leadership.