Episode 220

Why Payroll Is the Most Underrated Function in Business with Stephen Abbotts

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Payroll runs every business.

Yet most leaders still treat it like admin.

After 51 years in the profession, Stephen Abbotts says that mindset is costing companies millions.

Stephen is Director of Payroll Services at Azets and a Lifetime Achievement Award winner. He’s seen payroll evolve from paper payslips to AI, and he’s built payroll teams into strategic, revenue-driving functions along the way.

In this conversation, he shares the lessons that shaped his career and why payroll deserves a seat at the boardroom table.

Stephen Abbotts’ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-abbotts-2530232

Nick Day’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickday/

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(00:00) Why Payroll is Undervalued

(03:42) What Payroll Really Means

(04:17) Payroll in the 1970s

(05:25) The Biggest Shift in Payroll

(08:47) Learning Payroll With Zero Training

(10:29) Public vs Private Sector

(13:32) Changing Jobs at 62 (And Taking the Risk)

(18:13) The Power of Payroll Data Most Leaders Miss

(20:01) Turning Payroll From Cost Centre Into Profit Driver

(23:52) Hiring for Data, Not Payroll

(37:55) Will AI Replace Payroll?

(40:43) Scaling a £20M Payroll Operation

(44:36) One Rule for Success

(47:14) Why Payroll Deserves a Seat at the Boardroom

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Nick Day

Nick Day is a globally recognised thought leader in the payroll and HR industry, with over 20 years of experience as the founder and CEO of JGA Recruitment.

As an ILM 7 qualified Executive Coach and Mentor, Nick has dedicated his career to guiding CHROs, entrepreneurs, and payroll industry leaders worldwide.
Nick received the PAYO Global Vision Award in 2024 and was also voted one of Thinkers360’s "Top Voices EMEA" the same year.

In 2023, Thinkers360 ranked Nick as the #1 Global "Thought Leader in Payroll” and #9 Global "Thought Leader in HR.” That same year, he received the Recruitment Leaders Leader Award (RDLC) and the Personality of the Year title at the Reward Strategy Leadership Awards.

Nick's deep knowledge of the payroll industry and his coaching expertise make him a sought-after speaker and mentor for payroll and HR leaders. His presentations are known for their interactive elements, real-world applications, and actionable takeaways, ensuring attendees leave with a clear path to enhance their leadership capabilities.

Nick Day has a rich history of delivering impactful presentations, keynote speeches and workshops at various industry conferences and events. His engaging speaking style and practical insights have earned him recognition as a leading voice in payroll leadership.